One of the fastest routes out of the rat race is affiliate marketing.
Why ? Because you can make money without having to take the time to create a product to sell. You sell someone else’s product, and you find those products at an affiliate network.
I hear from a lot of new people that want to start, but can’t get approved at a network. They get excited, sign up and then – things fall apart.
There seem to be two main problems:
- You submit an application but can’t get approved
- You get approved but the affiliate manager disappears
There are a few reasons this could be happening:
- They think you’re a fraud
- They think you’re going to waste their time
Affiliate networks get 100s of signups per week and a good percentage of them are either fraudulent (real criminals who use stolen credit cards and other illegal methods to drive sales) or a waste of time (tire kickers and people that don’t know what they want to do).
So yeah, a lot of people get turned down.
To help you solve the problem, I’ve invited representatives from three top affiliate networks to give you some advice. They’ve all said they’re open to working with new affiliates and will approve you – as long as you’re legit and have some kind of plan.
If you want to get approved at a network, do this:
- Read their responses carefully (Take Notes)
- Use their advice and the signup link to get approved today
Thanks to Jason, Luke and Eleah for sharing their insights.
Here’s what they had to say.
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Jason Akatiff, Owner A4D Performance
Signup Link: Click here to signup with A4D (Put “MALAN” in How Did You Hear About Us to get approved.
Question 1: What’s the #1 mistake new affiliates make when signing up for A4D?
They don’t have a plan. They don’t have some kind of 1 year, 2 year goals laid out that they work backwards from. They just want to join to join. They don’t have time and budget set aside to start a new career.
Question 2: What should a brand new affiliate say during their initial conversation with an affiliate manager?
We as a company are looking for people that are serious about the business and willing to make an investment in at least time if not time and money into traffic. A good affiliate manager can only manage 50 affiliates or less. We have 1000’s that apply. So they’re looking for the people that are serious about making this business work.
As you know there’s hurdles you run into sometimes and it’s the people with a focused vision and persistence that push thru to be successful. Bringing on affiliates is like betting on horses, you want to find the potential thoroughbreds. Which equals focused, determined, time to invest and budget to invest (even if small).
Question 3: What should a brand new affiliate NEVER say during their initial conversation with an affiliate manager?
“I don’t know I just want to run some offers”. or “I’m not willing to work a plan. I can’t commit to anything.”
Question 4: Do you have any offer recommendations for new affiliates that want to work with A4D?
Good offers to get started in are typically things with high conversion rates. This is because you get conversion data back much quicker after you start running traffic. It always feels good to get a few conversions.
We have low conversion rate stuff that most of our big affiliates run, some converts at 0.2%. So you could have 2,000 clicks and no conversions. This would still be statistically relevant.
So things like dating & games is always a good place to start. These are higher converting verticals where a new affiliate can get data back faster.
*** Click here to signup with A4D (Put “MALAN” in How Did You Hear About Us to get approved.
Luke Kling, Blogger and Affiliate Manager at Peerfly
Signup Link: Click here to sign up with Peerfly
Question 1: What’s the #1 mistake new affiliates make when signing up for Peerfly?
Not explaining in detail how they plan to promote our offers. As long as you’re 18 years old and have provided us with valid identification information then we could care less who you actually are. What we are interested in is HOW are you going to work with us.
Everyday I get complaints from affiliates around the world that they were denied because they are from “x” country or that they have no experience so they cannot be approved. This is not true at all. If you have a good marketing strategy that is going to make our advertisers happy and make us money, then why in the world would we deny you?
Pro Tip: DO NOT copy and paste your marketing strategy from an eBook you buy because it says “say this to get automatically approved!”
If you copy and paste your marketing methods from another person your account will be denied. Our Approvals Manager goes through hundreds of applications a day and thousands a month. It’s the easiest thing to catch and it’s the quickest to get you denied.
Question 2: What should a brand new affiliate say during their initial conversation with an affiliate manager?
When an affiliate is approved to PeerFly they’ll get an email automatically from their affiliate manager asking them a few basic questions about their past affiliate marketing experiences and what type of offers they like to run.
Obviously, if you’re brand new then these things don’t apply to you in that context, but what I recommend you do is explain what your idea or strategy is to promote our offers.
We want to work with every legitimate affiliate we can find. The more money our affiliates make the more successful we are as a company. So, talk to your affiliate manager about a strategy you have heard of to see what they think and what they recommend.
As long as you show that you have the potential to be a good affiliate and aren’t simply asking silly questions like “how can I make the most money?” then your affiliate manager can be extremely helpful.
We aren’t really here to hold your hand. We are here to bounce ideas off of and make recommendations based on what we see across our network of affiliates.
Question 3: What should a brand new affiliate NEVER say during their initial conversation with an affiliate manager?
“All I want to do is make $xxx/day profit. How can I do it?”
Question 4: Any other advice for new affiliates?
I’m fine with being optimistic and having goals. Goals are great. However, it’s important that you focus on the process.
Find a strategy and discuss it. Create a landing page and get recommendations. You have to put in the work. Affiliate managers are not here to run your campaign for you.
Click here to signup with Peerfly. Use Luke’s advice to choose an offer and get approved.
Eleah Portillo, Managing Director at Adsimilis
Signup Link: Click here to signup with Adsimilis
Question 1: What’s the #1 mistake new affiliates make when signing up for Adsimilis?
Affiliate networks get tons of new applications a day, many of which are fraudulent. Here’s a classic point in case of an affiliate fraud: (watch video) Thus any network worth their affili-salt will be screening each and every application before approving. This involves sifting thru the applications to prioritize based on best potential for legitimacy.
Not providing any information on your application, and not reaching out to the network to follow upon said application, will extend the time it takes to process. You’re copywriters, so give a gal a call to action! Make the affiliate team screening these applications want to get you signed up as soon as possible!
For the non native English speakers, have someone proofread. We’re an international network with offices in 7 countries… we understand! Heck, I question my own grammar and spelling…but proofreading for grammar and spelling eliminates any potential unwarranted red flags.
The Extra Legwork Will Give You the Leg Up:
Trust me, if you’re passionate about making affiliate marketing your craft (and I think you are if your’e a regular reader of this blog), every network out there wants your business. If you don’t get accepted in some of the more established networks right away, put a little work in and try again. (Not sure which networks are established? Reputation is everything pubrones, just ask around on the forums or look for industry veterans who work at networks and go there).
While you’re getting your feet wet, work wherever you can to learn and establish some history, some savvy and yes, a screenshot or two of your revenue wouldn’t hurt. Then apply to the original networks you wanted to work with again. It’s worth the extra effort. If there are low barriers to entry to a network, that network will attract lower caliber traffic. The top tier advertisers, payouts and caps you are looking for won’t be available on those types of networks for very long…
Actions speak louder than words, but words speak louder than no action.
Another mistake affiliates potentially make when signing up is not trying to speak with any of us if they want their application expedited. Like most networks, the Adsimilis team’s Skype and email addresses are listed on our website. We’re we’re active in StackThatMoney and AffPlaybook, and on the main industry FB Groups. It’s easy to get a hold of us… do so and we’ll get you taken care of!
Reality Check: If you make post in a forum for Facebook page, and someone from a network responds that day with a helpful answer, that’s probably the person you want as your affiliate manager anyway. Extra benefit of taking the initiative to ask.
Question 2: What should a brand new affiliate say during their initial conversation with an affiliate manager?
Game the System.
In order for you to be efficient and effective in this biz, you’re going to need a game-plan so you can test and collect data with intent, then take action based on that data to optimize your campaign toward profitability, and ultimately scale.
Start with the proven high-quality traffic sources and stick with it. Or, start with a well-known evergreen vertical (read: not the flavor of the month), and– you guessed it– stick with it. Preferably both. Your game plan will involve what your threshold for success should look like so you know when you’ve gotten there.
Communicate that gameplan to your affiliate manager as soon as possible. Which type of traffic are you focusing on, and which vertical? What does success look like for you? With these goals in mind, your affiliate manager can set you up with campaigns that are the best fit for your business, and help keep an eye on your performance. You’re optimizing your campaigns, and your affiliate managers are optimizing their recommendations based on your performance.
Question 3: What should a brand new affiliate NEVER say during their initial conversation with an affiliate manager?
3’s the Magic Number.
- “Hi… ” (then silence). My magic 8 ball ain’t as reliable as she used to be, so it’s getting really difficult for me to read your mind. Adsimilis is here to help, just tell us how. 🙂
- Speaking despairingly about another network or an individual… it’s a small industry lovelies, and we’ve all worked with each other at some point or will soon. No time or interest for gossip or industry drama, and everyone talks to everyone. Really.
- “Whats hot?” For the love of the wine gods, avoid the herd mentality. If you’re new, you probably won’t have success competing against 90% of the industry. And that’s ok! Adsimilis can help you find something you have a better chance of success in, and we’ll work with you to get there!
Question 4: Any vertical / offer suggestions for new affiliates that come to Adsimilis?
Depends on your background. If your’e completely green, I prefer to start affiliates on social. Facebook has proven high quality traffic, so many variations and options available to you, massive scale potential, and relative consistency to build upon. Hard to go wrong.
POF has incredible resources out there to leverage. POF Ben’s insights, blog, guidance and friendliness is just exemplary. In fact do whatever it takes to get to know and befriend this industry gem; guys like that are rare.
Once you decide the where, your AdFabs affiliate manager will help you figure out the what with bespoke offerings based on your business, goals, and history.
Question 5: Any other words of wisdom?
When you go into battle, suit up in armor.
I encourage you to pony up for proper tools you should be employing (scrapers like WhatRunsWhere, proper tracking like Voluum, etc) from the get go – don’t start yourself at a disadvantage that you can avoid! And really, just get in there and start testing. It sounds cliche for the network to just say “test,” but if you’re completely new you, not matter how many blog and forum posts you read, how many offers you scrape, you just won’t get it until you jump in and try to swim.
Paralysis of analysis is a real thing. But hopefully Thomas Edison’s words can switch on your mental lightbulb: “Vision without execution is hallucination.” Namaste.
Signup Link: Click here to signup with Adsimilis. Use Eleah’s advice to get approved
My Thoughts
After reading through all of these responses it looks like the common thread is that you need to have a plan. Having a plan means at the very minimum have an offer, a traffic source, budget and a time frame in mind.
Say something like this:
“Hi my name is _________. I’m interested in running your ______ offer on ________ ad network. We’ve heard it’s doing really well for others and want to give it a shot. My current budget is _______ / month, but that will grow based on performance. If things go well over the next month, we’ll hit it really hard and scale to other networks.”
Do Not say something like this:
“Hey I’m brand new but want to get rich fast, what’s hot?” I have like $100 right now and I can’t lose it all so probably like $50 to start. I have no idea what offer to run or which ad network to use, I thought that was your job.”
Being able to communicate a solid plan will help you sail through that first conversation and you’ll probably have a better chance of getting their Skype username and getting help in the future.
Conclusion
If you’re new and having trouble getting approved at affiliate networks. Take some time and come up with a plan.
Affiliate networks don’t want to work with people who just “want to make $1000/day” or have no idea what they’re doing.
By coming up with a plan and presenting yourself as an asset to the network you’re much more likely to get approved, get some help from the inside and put yourself in a position to start making money.
Remember, my first big campaign was the result of an affiliate manager’s help.
That’s my advice.
If you have any questions post them in the comments.
Good luck out there.
Resources:
- A4D Signup (put “MALAN” in How Did You Hear About Us?)
- Peerfly signup
- Adsimilis signup
adil bashir says
Hi, I join A4D under your reference, MALAN, thanks you for information.
Jonatas says
Excellent! Man, I’m struggling with that right now. Hope I can get approved soon.
PG says
Great share Malan, funnily enough I have found getting approved by Networks is the least challenging part of the game :).That said I have found using reaching out directly on Linkedin (if you have relevant professional experience) to help a great deal. Frequently networks will see connections in common &/or see your background which makes them more feel more comfortable in approving you (i.e this guy isn’t a shyster etc.). Might help some folks.
Ronny says
Hi Malan,
Several months ago an affiliate network contacting me.
She found me through my website and asking me to run an anitvirus campaign on my tech site.
At first I refused her offer because I run amazon and Adsense on my site and have no trust on other networks.
Somehow she comeback to me and want to buy a slot on my site willing to pay me upfront $750 for 6 months. But she want me to sign up to the network so I can grab the banner. She also ask me to use the affiliate link.
After I signed up, I confirm my registration to her and get approved.
However, there are issues that arise.
She will and only can pay me by check,while I do not want to be pay by check because it would require a lot of time (usually take a month) for the check to come to my address and to cash the check (take 3 weeks). I live in Indonesia.
I have been accustomed to receiving payment from adsense via western union and Amazon via Payoneer.
To be honest I have not enough information and knowledge about affiliate marketing and the (trusted) affiliate network. Usually I only post and put amazon aff link on the post. I don`t care much about SEO and have no experience in running paid campaign.
So my question is which affiliate network that you mentioned in your article provides a payment method besides check like wire or Paypal maybe. I want to try them.
Thanks
Malan Darras says
Ronny – all of the networks listed here will pay by wire, not sure if they’ll do western union or payoneer. Hopefully one of the reps will answer you here.
But I’ll tell you this. If you are currently monetizing your site with adsense and amazon links you could probably make 10x more money by adding a few CPA offers.
ronny says
Hi Malan,
Thanks for your reply.
I browse around your blog and read several posts…oh My God…he must be in love with you so much. Somehow you have the power to turn yourself from drunken master to internet marketing master. That`s so cool!!!
10x more money with CPA — that`s tempting, will try!!!
Malan Darras says
you’ll thank me later… 🙂
Jon Tam says
On another note, I’ve got a specific question for you and also Jason, I’ve seen the both of you recommend dating lead gen, but do either of you have more specific advice on getting it profitable? My experience on Pof has been that the traffic is expensive and with average CTR of 0.015%, and even that isn’t easy to hit, it seems difficult to profit. Thanks Malan.
Malan Darras says
hey Jon, I can’t really give specific campaign advice here. Every campaign is different and to help everyone individually would take too much time.
there are plenty of resources for pof out there. check out pof ben’s blog and FinchSells for actual case studies
Jon Tam says
No problem, I understand. Thanks Malan.
Jon Tam says
Hey Malan, I’ve got a question for these affiliate mamagers/owners, is it kosher to ask to work with a new affiliate manager?
Malan Darras says
Good question Jon. I don’t think I’ve ever had to do this. But to be honest I pretty much pick my affiliate manager before I signup to the network or just work with the CEOs.
But it’s a great question, I”ll try to get someone to chime in. If you get a manager you don’t get along with, is it ok to ask for a new one?
Jon Tam says
Yeah don’t get along with or in my case isn’t helping me at the level i expect, in fact… seems downright clueless lol i.e. recommending offers that don’t seem to convert well
Jason AKatiff says
Hi Jon,
As far as requesting a new AM, there’s absolutely no issue with changing AM’s. A lot of time people don’t get along or an AM may not have the experience in what you do. So just ask.
Jon Tam says
Thanks for the reply Jason, glad to hear from a CEO/owner that this is perfectly fine with, A4D has been a great network and on point, this is problem with bigger networks with a lot of AM’s
Eleah Portillo says
Hey Jon happy affiliates is any network’s goal, and it’s ok if people don’t click. We’re always happy to ensure you’re set up for success at Adsimilis, so if you need a different AM, just let me know, eleah@adsimilis.com 🙂
James McKinney says
I once had an interview with Sean at Adsimilis and he said I was approved, then when I tried to log in, it said I wasn’t approved and spent weeks trying to email them with no response.
EP says
Hey James, Eleah here. Sounds like there was definitely a mixup there so we certainly apologize about that! I’ll be in touch today privately!
Malan Darras says
Hope you guys get it figured out James. Eleah is a good one, so you should be taken care of now.
Reid Yamamoto says
Thanks for another extremely high-value post. You obviously put a lot of time into this one and it offers some great insights into how affiliate managers view new publishers. The video of the fraud call is hilarious.
Malan Darras says
yeah Reid, that video is a classic. i never knew about aff fraud until I saw that… crazy.